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Dr. Patel:

    śubhāśubha-phalair evaṁ
    mokṣyase karma-bandhanaiḥ
    vimukto mām upaiṣyasi
    (BG 9.28)

Prabhupāda: Yes. Sannyāsa-yoga means sa sannyāsī, the one who acts for Kṛṣṇa, sa sannyāsī.

Dr. Patel: Sannyāsa-yoga-yuktātmā. Means you have actually, I mean, sannyāsa means nyāsa of all attachment toward the...

Prabhupāda: Nyāsa means giving up, giving up. Nyāsa. Sat nyāsa, sannyāsa. Oṁ tat sat. Sat is Kṛṣṇa. Therefore when you sacrifice everything for Kṛṣṇa, that is real sannyāsa, not this dress. This dress is symbolical. That's all. Real thing is kāryaṁ karma karoti ya. Kāryam. "Oh, it is my... Kṛṣṇa wants everyone should surrender unto Him. Then I shall teach everyone to surrender to Kṛṣṇa." Kāryam. "This is my business." Kāryaṁ karma karoti, sa sannyāsī. What is that kāryam? Kāryam means... This is kāryam.

Chandobhai: Yajñā dana tapa.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66). You'll take a practical. My Guru Mahārāja gave me hint that "Book publication is more pleasing to me than maṭha-mandira." So I took it, and I began to publish books, and that has come successful. Kāryaṁ karma. I took it, "Oh, Guru Mahārāja wants that books should be published. So let me concentrate on this instead of..." My creating so many centers, big, big temples, that is not my primary duty. My primary duty is to write books. Therefore I am going on still. These are coming automatically. Maybe this is the secret of my success.

Dr. Patel: Sannyāsa-yoga-yuktātmā vimukto mām upaiṣyasi (BG 9.28).

Prabhupāda: Ah, karyam, that one should take the order of the guru, because guru is the representative of Kṛṣṇa. So when one takes... That is explained by Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura in connection with the verse,

    vyavasāyātmikā buddhir
    ekeha kuru-nandana
    bahu-śākhā hy anantāś ca
    buddhayo 'vyavasāyinām
    (BG 2.41)

So the vyavasāyīs, those who are fixed up in the words of guru, so "Guru has ordered me to do it. Oh, that is my life. I do not know whether I will be promoted to heaven or hell. It doesn't matter. I shall execute."

Dr. Patel: Execute the order of the guru.

Prabhupāda: Guru. Yes. That is the secret. Yasya deve parā bhaktir tathā deve yathā gurau (ŚU 6.23). Then he is sure to be successful. This is the secret.

(Srila Prabhupada Morning Walk Conversation, Bombay, April 2, 1974)
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